| 0:00:36 | The meeting starts without the officer whose answers it exists to hear | Sprague: “So, with that, I think we’ll begin. So my questions that I have really to miss Henry was not here yet, so.” Whitney: “She is on her way.” The business administrator is in the room by 0:21:26 and her first recorded words are at 0:24:16. Twenty-one minutes of a two-hour budget meeting run without her. | |
| 0:00:49 | The one thing the statutory hearing sent back to this committee | Whitney: “So at the at the meeting on Wednesday, we did a brief review with the board where we didn’t do an official presentation, but there was a question or we it was noticed that we were providing, teacher coaching at both CMS, Claremont Middle School and Stevens High School, but we did not build into the budget or it was not built into the budget, that the elementary schools would have the same services.” The district’s approved minutes of that hearing carry it as a board instruction: “Request to find a way to fund an elementary coach position”. that sentence is from the approved minutes of 3 January 2024 | POSITIVE |
| 0:02:26 | Why the administration never asked for it | Koski: “Yeah. So first of all, the reason we didn’t ask for it is we were trying not to ask for too much. And and so we left out that piece with the idea that next year we would fold in the coach of the elementary school level. So if the board is willing, we’d be very happy to have that position.” | |
| 0:03:29 | “I’ll find the money” | Crawford: “I agree wholeheartedly with that. I would love to. I mean, I’m willing the money I find I’ll find the money.” She adds that coaching at the elementary level is a different skill set from the middle and high schools. | |
| 0:04:53 | The board chair reads the pandemic-funded establishment back to the administration, from her own list | Whitney: “So I’ve got here I’ve got we had two campus monitors that were Esser funded. We had two academic deans that were Esser funded. We had one English teacher, which was Esser funded, and we had three behavior support specialists that were Esser funded.” “Esser” here and throughout is ESSER, the federal Elementary and Secondary School Emergency Relief fund; the recognizer also produces “Esther”, “Vesper” and “Asher” for the same word in this file | OBSERVATION |
| 0:10:53 | The question under the whole budget | Whitney: “And, you know, what are actually new positions, because it feels to me as if we’re actually adding a lot of new positions in compared to pre-COVID. Now, it doesn’t mean that we don’t need them, but I think we have to be clear about what we’re actually how many positions we’re actually increasing from pre-COVID money.” She says why at 0:11:19: “I did send an email out requesting that kind of to be clarified, because we’re going to have to explain it to the to the public.” No such total is produced at this meeting or, on the public record, before the budget was adopted. | OBSERVATION |
| 0:11:30 | Two posts are confirmed as genuinely new | Whitney: “So I guess the question is, so what I’m hearing is that there is universal, administrative support for maintaining the Arc coordinator and the behavioral in house suspension room positions, which are additional positions from pre-COVID times. Is that correct?” Tempesta: “That’s correct.” | |
| 0:12:58 | The superintendent proposes the trade | Tempesta: “And I also think, Whitney Skilling was kind of suggesting this as well. We are adding three social workers, you know, could we get by with two?” “Whitney Skilling” is the board member Whitney Skillen, who is not at this meeting; this is the corpus’s most persistent name garble At 0:14:17 he argues from what the district does not have: “Right now we have three. If we went by in the suggestion is of the new things we’re adding, how might we get the academic coach and that that would be my suggestion because, instead of cutting something else.” | |
| 0:13:37 | The starting point is not zero | Crawford: “Well, we’re not going from none. We do have one. That’s a person at the high school that works about 30, you know, 65% of the time at the elementary school. So it’s not like we’re going from zero. We’ve got like a 6/10 position that serves the the elementary schools.” She sources the figure at 0:17:20: “they only spend, according to Chris, 35% of their time with that population.” | |
| 0:16:50 | The decision, such as it is | Crawford: “So, so, so instead of three social workers, you’re going with two social workers and one coach.” Whitney at 0:16:33: “I would like to make that swap. I think that it would be a benefit to of the teachers and every student in the district to have higher functioning teachers at the elementary school level.” Koski gives the resulting caseload at 0:17:10 — “They’d be a case 350.” Agreed by consensus. No motion, no second, no vote, and no minute. | HIGH POSITIVE |
| 0:21:55 | What a member thinks she is voting on | Crawford: “Frank, I just I do know that we just adopt a bottom line number. However, by adopting a whole budget, we are endorsing various energies,” — and, continuing at 0:22:09: “in order for me to adopt a budget, I need to have some confidence in what the numbers represent.” “energies” is the recognizer’s; the speaker’s next words return to goals | |
| 0:22:28 | The $688,426.17, and why the chair would not let it go | Sprague: “Okay. So it’s no secret that I’ve been kind of hung up on the, the 688, $688,000 that is in the budget that, at one point, nobody seemed to know what to do with it. And so we’ve been I’ve been spending some energy figuring out how what is that?” And at 0:27:04: “I’m just trying to figure out where is this 688,000, because I can’t. Stand to have that in the budget.” | MEDIUM POSITIVE |
| 0:22:51 | Current-year actuals, asked for again | Sprague: “And I think and maybe you can answer the questions without the, the current year actuals. But Candy had talked about how helpful current year actuals would be. And I’ve and I’ve arrived at that point as well”. Crawford at 0:23:18: “Particularly with the last year’s budget numbers having so many anomalies.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:23:41 | The pattern, in one line of the budget book | Sprague, working from page 8 of the 20 December version: “And so if you look at Maple Media Retirement, which is three quarters of the way down, there’s a consistent number there for actual 20, 20, 22, 23. It’s zeroed out this year and it’s back in the proposed.” At 0:24:19: “Is that really a zero or is that 8700 that should be in the budget. That’s part of that 688. So what is that?” | MEDIUM |
| 0:25:44 | It is a real obligation, and it was left out | Henry: “So I’m going to tell you it’s a real number because it was left out of last year’s. And it should have been in there because you have a teacher under media salaries that gets New Hampshire retirement.” Asked how the district will pay it, at 0:26:32: “Well, what’s going to happen is we’re going to hope that somewhere within our budget, we have $8,700 that we didn’t spend. Yeah, that’s really how it works.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:26:47 | The chair says whose fault it is not | Sprague: “So and I know this is not and I’m going to put it right out there. This is not your fault.” Henry: “Oh, yeah. I thank you for acknowledging that. You’re fine, I acknowledge that. Thank you for acknowledging that.” She had been in post about six months; the credit predates her. | POSITIVE |
| 0:27:12 | How she found it | Henry: “So here’s what I did to go back through I did first I looked at the budget, dumped everything to a spreadsheet like I normally do, sorted it all out under salaries and benefits to see where my, you know, my anomalies or whatever you want to call them were in the budget.” Then, at 0:27:29: “So then I went back to Richard’s spreadsheets and looked at what he had listed for people and compared it to what I have right now in the budget.” | POSITIVE |
| 0:28:16 | What was in it | Henry, at 0:27:47: “A lot of people are grant funded but were put into the budget.” And: “So through process of elimination, I took I mean, I’ve got names on all these, so I know who I moved out. But that’s really what it came down to, is there was over a half $1 million that was in Ida alone.” “Ida” and “I’d e” are the recognizer’s IDEA, the federal special-education grant; she declines to name it on air, saying only “It’s a special education grant. It’s a grant.” | |
| 0:29:17 | Why it sat there as one number | Crawford: “But then why is the 688 in this year’s budget?” Henry: “Because he didn’t go back and push it back across the lines that the credit belonged on. If he had done that. And if you look at my new numbers, you’re going to see now that the variances are much smaller, because I moved these numbers out of that credit”. Restated at 0:31:41: “the 688,000 was a negative number to your budget, meaning that he knew there were $688,000 worth of monies sitting in the other lines that are grant funded. He accounted for the grant funding.” And at 0:32:06: “But he just didn’t allocate it to where it belonged.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:29:42 | The residual, named to the dollar | Henry: “So now you’re not going to see a 688,000. You’re going to see that it is where, in my opinion, based on the information that I had is where it belongs. So just so you know, I landed with roughly $16,000 that I couldn’t find.” At 0:30:04: “16,830. Hey, that I was happy with that. So what I did was I moved it off of the code of health insurance, because that one was way over budgeted for the year.” And: “But every other amount of money that I took was based on a person.” | POSITIVE |
| 0:33:22 | The account code, from memory | Henry: “It’s near the end under 40 and it’s 110113, I think unfortunately I have it memorized.” Whitney: “I was going to say that’s, that’s a little that’s a little sad.” Crawford locates it: “It’s on page 44.” The district’s own budget memo of 3 January prints the full code: 100.40.1100.113.5.00000 Board Voted Expense Reductions for FY24 ($688,426.17) decrease should have been allocated out to the salary and benefit lines that it belonged. that sentence is from the memo, not the recording | POSITIVE |
| 0:33:47 | A member reads the column heading and gets the opposite answer | Crawford: “So at the top of that column it says increase or decrease okay. And when it’s less it’s a print Prinz number. So now I see the 688 is not a Prinz number. So to me that indicates it’s an expense.” the recognizer’s “print Prinz” is her describing a figure shown in parentheses; the reading is not certain and the transcript is left as it stands Henry: “But here’s and you’re right. But here’s a cute. But you’re right. No, no, you’re right.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:35:28 | A worked example: Bluff special education | Henry: “it is bluff sped salaries. Yep. If you now look across on the old number under bluff sped, let me make sure I got this right and I’m in the right spot. Fiscal year 24 said 336,000. It now says 178.” Crawford, at 0:36:23: “We’re being -174. It’s -16,000.” Henry: “But the variance isn’t $174,000 like it was.” The point is not that the total moved — it did not — but that every line under it did. | MEDIUM |
| 0:37:53 | “So so here’s my problem” — the chair’s own audit begins | Sprague: “So so here’s my problem okay. So I still have what I found.” He had emailed it the night before (0:22:51: “I had emailed to last evening”). Henry: “Yeah but that’s okay. But those are questions you can ask me that. But I think some of the things you found, some of the things I corrected.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:38:27 | Claremont Middle School, water and sewer | Sprague, page 24: “So consistent. Actual 2223 17,000 something. Yeah. Then it drops current year to 75 and then it pops back up to 17. Yep. That looks like ten grand to me.” Henry: “It is. And I can tell you that I believe the 17 grand is more right. Yeah. And under budgeted so far for this year current year.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:39:35 | Stevens High School, substitutes | Sprague, page 25: “So if you walk across that you’re going to see again 10,000, ten. Thousand. Nothing zero and then 10,000 again. That’s another ten grand.” Henry: “Oh I see what you’re talking about because they didn’t put it in the budget last year. And it it should have been in because we’ve spent.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:40:29 | “a half $1 million of this kind of stuff” | Sprague: “So that’s, it’s situations like that where that’s where I bring up. It would be nice to know what the actual are. That way we know if that’s a real discrepancy or not. Okay. So in my efforts to find the 688, I actually I actually found a number like, like a half $1 million of this kind of stuff.” Restated at 0:44:26: “So that’s where I found the 680 or close to probably half a million.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:40:51 | And another $300,000, volunteered by the officer | Henry: “Well, and there’s another big one in here that’s retirement benefits. It’s 300,000 and nothing is against yet. And that’s a journal entry that usually happens to.” Sprague: “I didn’t I didn’t mark that one.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:41:07 | A full-time post carried at four tenths for years | Sprague: “And again the one that I’ve used as an example the the secretary. Yeah. That’s been the example I’ve used that’s been in the budget for a couple of years at four. And and you fixed it, it’s now full time and it’s budgeted. So it’s budgeted for I think it’s an increase of 18,000. So plus benefits. So there’s it’s well over.” Crawford: “What what you’re saying is it was a full time position but it was budgeted at 0.4.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:42:10 | The board chair adds it up | Whitney: “So what I’m hearing from you, Frank, is that we could possibly you believe we could possibly have close to with that 300,000 that Mary was identifying roughly another million dollars?” Sprague declines the total: “Oh, I wouldn’t say that. Because some of some of the stuff I have to get.” Crawford: “They might be the same numbers.” Nobody ever settles it. | MEDIUM |
| 0:44:02 | A keying error, described | Sprague: “Where there were there’d be a number written in, entered in that was part of what the real number was, for example, something your previous year had been 82, 58,250, and it was written in as a 25 in the, in the budget. So, you know, you know, it’s an $8,000.” Crawford completes it: “Transfer variance.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:45:35 | The officer stands behind the new column, not the old one | Henry: “But I think it was entered wrong. That’s why if I’m going to say to you, Frank, and I’m willing to bank on this, that all of my numbers sitting in Social Security, Medicare, retirement, health insurance, dental and all that are related to employees. Yeah. So I feel my numbers are very accurate now”. Sprague: “because I’m taking your numbers as being the right numbers. Thank you. And I’m looking at whatever. It is. What is. What is in there isn’t the right number.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:46:12 | “Fiction.” | Crawford: “And that’s where the variance is immaterial because it’s based on. Yeah. Fiction.” Sprague says it again in his own voice at 1:12:32, of the middle-school guidance count: “It’s it’s fiction. Okay.” Two of the three members of the committee that built this budget describe its prior-year column, on live television, as fiction. | MEDIUM |
| 0:46:21 | The special-education director is telephoned into the meeting | Henry: “And I’m only interrupting because I message Ben Nestor he’s at a conference but he’s willing to be called in. I just have to let him know. So right now yeah, he’s available right now.” The connection takes a minute; asked “Can you see us?” he answers “No.” “Nestor” is the recognizer’s; the director is Ben Nester | |
| 0:47:55 | The method that found everything else: diffing the drafts | Crawford: “So my questions are based on what I’ve been trying to do is every time we get a new copy, a new budget, I reference from the very last one where the differences are okay. So it kind of builds, you know, we had one, two, three, four. So when I got the 212, 20 budget, I compared it because that was the one that was down 300 and something thousand, not the 688.” She is the only person in the room doing this, and every substantive question in the next fifteen minutes comes out of it. | MEDIUM |
| 0:48:32 | Where the $350,000 went: an alternative-education line at zero | Crawford: “And so I was trying to determine where the 350,000. These are all big round numbers. Where it came from. And what I concluded is, on district wide special ed, it looks like, the alt ed was zeroed out.” And at 0:48:58: “And I wondered why that was.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:49:25 | About $240,000, between two drafts two days apart | Crawford: “Because I added up and it did come to about 240,000. And and this was and this was comparing the 1218 budget to the 1220 budget to see where the variations were.” The page: “So this is page 42 of the 1220 budget.” and, at 0:50:00, “And it’s the alternative support program. It’s all zeros for this next year.” The public document for that draft carries the same fact: the FY25 Proposed Budget Summary Page in the 3 January packet shows 2190-2192 Alternative Support Programs falling from $368,430.35 to $111,321.90 — a decrease of $257,108.45, or 69.78 per cent, the largest proportional reduction on the page. | MEDIUM |
| 0:50:34 | “We weren’t informed that some program got cut” | Crawford: “Why did all of those numbers get deleted? We weren’t informed that some program got cut. So you don’t cut out 240,000 without. I’m wondering where it went or why it went.” It had in fact been raised in public two days earlier — by the chair of this committee, at the statutory hearing she was absent from. Sprague at the 3 January hearing, from that meeting’s dialogue file: “Alternative support programs. I’m wondering what is that?” The answer given there trails off: “We did reduce. We had three rooms running and then we did.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:50:51 | Three self-contained classrooms, and where two of them went | Nester: “I can offer a potential explanation. Can’t exactly speak to how the budget lines were structured last year, but, there’s a location code 138. And that that was I think the descriptor was alternative program. And that would have accounted for three, three self-contained classrooms.” At 0:51:14: “One was at the high school and two were housed at Maple. In previous years. And the one at the high school remains intact. It’s possible that the the funding for that line would have shifted over to a high school line, which was appropriate. And then the other one, like I mentioned, was reduced.” He cannot account for the whole figure: at 0:49:16, “I don’t know if that accounts for the full 224. That sounds a little high to me as well.” | MEDIUM |
| 0:52:50 | A member insists the money must reappear somewhere | Crawford: “I’ve got the Stevens High School numbers, and I’m looking to see where I would find those numbers added. Because you can’t just cut out, you can shift it, but the negative shouldn’t be that amount.” They find a $105,000 increase in the high-school special-education salary line (0:53:57) — about half of it. | MEDIUM |
| 0:54:26 | “All behavior specialists have been zeroed out” | Nester: “Oh they were they was the road out. All behavior specialists have been zeroed out, for this next budget cycle.” Henry, immediately: “No more letters of agreement.” Crawford: “Okay. Oh, jeez. Okay. All right, I’ll follow that up.” | OBSERVATION |
| 0:54:37 | A $100,000 psychologist that turns out not to have gone | Crawford: “I also saw that about 100,000 $100,000 came out of district wide. That was for a, Oh. Come on. A psychologist. Psychologist. Are we eliminating a psychologist in the district one?” Nester: “We have two. We should have. We should continue to have two full time school sites.” Whitney answers from the document at 0:56:14: “The psych services went up, by 25,000 375,000 under the district wide.” and “It’s on page 4949 of the 49.” Crawford: “I will double check that.” | |
| 0:57:19 | What was actually cut, named | Henry: “We had an autism program and a pride program, and we’re reducing the pride program by one room, which would be two pairs and a teacher and a teacher.” “pairs”, “Paris”, “pears” and “Perez” are all the recognizer’s paras — paraprofessionals — throughout this file | MEDIUM |
| 0:59:07 | The other side of the trade | Henry: “$167,000 in the pair lines were increases.” — salaries only. At 0:59:32: “So there’s another five and a half pairs is how it roughly if you did it at 30,000.” Crawford: “So, so we’ve added five and a half pairs.” Henry: “Right. But we’ve deleted far more behavioral support.” | OBSERVATION |
| 0:59:53 | The count, established on the record | Nester: “So 1111. Total minus three. I looked at that yesterday. So three at the element. There were three at CMS. S were funded of the 11.” Then, at 1:00:06: “No it would have been eight. Eight would have been in local fund eight.” Cost, at 1:00:36: “And I figured about 42, five for each one, give or take. So let’s see. 40. You know, 42,500 times eight.” Sprague: “400 grand.” Eleven posts in all, eight of them local, three federally funded — which is exactly what the district’s own 3 January budget memo lists, school by school. | OBSERVATION |
| 1:01:02 | The trade, stated as a saving | Sprague: “And we’re saving and we’re. And we’re eliminating 400 roughly in cost for behavioral specialists.” Henry at 1:01:40: “So eight were in our general budget. We removed eight of them and inserted 5 or 5 and a half, whatever paras into the budget because we needed them.” And at 1:02:29: “Pairs based on need for IEPs. Yes. So we’re required to have them.” Nobody at any point asks what the eleven eliminated posts were doing, or who does it now. | OBSERVATION |
| 1:04:04 | Claremont Middle School: what goes, what arrives, and what is only renamed | Crawford: “Okay, so now you remove the academic deans from the middle school. Yeah. Because they were as the fronted. Correct. And so there are none of those at the middle school.” “as the fronted” is the recognizer’s ESSER-funded Henry at 1:03:28 on the campus monitor: “But now it’s turned into two positions. It’s a campus monitor, and the assistant athletic director position combined is one.” Crawford at 1:05:43: “So that’s adding a position. If the academic deans were in s or before. And now you have this arc that would be adding a position I think.” | |
| 1:05:55 | “How can you add a position that’s already in the budget” | Crawford: “So so in this seems changes. It has added one science position currently open. How can you add a position that’s already in the budget. You’re not adding a position because it’s already in the budget.” She puts it again at 1:07:13: “When it says add a science position currently open. If it’s currently open and in the budget, why is it an addition?” She is reading the district’s own memo, which lists under CMS Changes: Add 1 Science position currently open. (3 teachers currently) that line is from the district’s budget memo of 3 January 2024, not from the recording | MEDIUM |
| 1:07:44 | The officer concedes the wording of a document the public had | Henry: “Currently three currently now I apologize three. So we are we have one open in the budget current currently. So we have three. It should just say it’s an open position Candace. It’s what it should say.” Crawford: “So you’re not adding that.” and, at 1:08:03, Henry: “This is my document. So I apologize for that.” The superintendent had said the same thing more briefly: “Just a word. Right?” No corrected version of the memo appears in any district share. | MEDIUM |
| 1:09:37 | “Everything’s going to four.” | Crawford walks the reductions: mathematics from 4.6 (“So you’re reducing it by 6/10”), English “They’re currently six. So you’re cutting that to four.”, social studies “there are currently seven. So they’re going to be reduced by three.” Henry: “Everything’s going to four.” Four core-subject teachers each for three grades. Crawford, at 1:09:38: “I’m just thinking if there are three classes six seven and eight and there are four teachers, then they’re going to be teaching multi grades.” Koski: “Do either multi grades. So a teacher may have teach two different grade levels or a split team where they would teach two subject areas.” | |
| 1:10:24 | The guidance count that nobody can state twice the same way | Crawford: “there are in our current budget, there were three guidance people at the middle school, one of which was funded with the money from the tech center. But then that was in staffed because that person became the the assistant principal. And so you’ve had two middle school guidance people.” Henry: “There are three guidance counselors.” Crawford: “There are three guidance. They’ve told me they were two.” Sprague, at 1:11:18: “Actually there were four because the one for the tech center.” Henry, at 1:12:19: “But it didn’t because it’s actually physically three funded in the middle school, which we don’t need.” Sprague: “It’s it’s fiction. Okay.” Disposition: two, by consensus. | MEDIUM |
| 1:13:47 | The board chair reconstructs both schools’ establishments aloud, from her own notes | Whitney: “I had two assistant principals. Is there just one?” Henry: “There’s just one. There was one. It looks like in the budget. Looks like we had another one budgeted this year.” She then lists the middle school (1:14:17) and the high school (1:14:56) post by post, correcting herself as she goes: “Five spread pears and five general editor pears written down from the presentation.” (1:18:50) turns out to be wrong — Henry: “I don’t have five.” and Whitney: “That’s what I wrote down for the presentation.” Nearly six minutes of a public meeting are spent establishing how many people work in one building at a time. | MEDIUM |
| 1:19:35 | What a paraprofessional is, according to the superintendent | Tempesta: “I just want to I want to clarify what the terminology those are. More akin to a campus monitor there. The term regular ed paraprofessional is a complete misnomer. The only paraprofessionals we have are for special ed. Right. So everything else should be on what is a letter of agreement, which those are the remaining letter agreements.” And at 1:20:01: “The term letter of agreement is it’s a general term used for people who are not in a contracted in a CBA covered by that. So you have psychologists OT, PT, the ones that we just refer to that we eliminated were just the behavioral specialists who are very close to a paraprofessional.” | OBSERVATION |
| 1:20:26 | The chair proposes a name for what the budget cannot describe | Sprague: “So Mike, it might be advisable for the positions like the the discipline monitors or whatever to characterize them as program assistants because they work independently with minimal supervision. And their work in no way resembles anything that a para does.” At 1:22:44 he gives his own history with the distinction: “We had to parse that out when I was working for the district because the, the, the Perry Union was did exactly that. They, they wanted a clear definition between a program assistant and a parent.” “the Perry Union” and “a parent” are the recognizer’s para union and para | |
| 1:23:24 | A fix, offered for next year | Henry: “So what we could do is create another area for clarity, for clarity. So you’re not. So when you see regular instruction salaries, paras, we put these into a different line because they’re not that, you know what I mean.” And, at 1:24:40: “But we need to do that. And what I would like to do, even after the budgets passed, I will go through. And for next year, I will break people into where they need to go.” Crawford, at 1:24:11: “So I’m back to. Frank’s comments about these programs, specialists that in this budget they are called Paris.” Henry: “That’s the budget line that’s being used.” | OBSERVATION |
| 1:24:49 | Why the committee is doing this in public | Whitney: “historically the the community has seen those kind of, accounting practices as a way of shifting money around and deceiving the public, whether or not that is the case.” And at 1:25:15: “And so it seems as if we’re being nitpicky, but quite frankly, we’re being defensive of the budget, right? Meaning we’re looking as a committee to say we want the the community to see this budget as as legitimate and transparent and specific and and no funny money is being switched.” | POSITIVE |
| 1:25:35 | The officer’s own account of where she is | Henry: “But these conversations also help because remember it, it enables us when we’re going forward for next year. I mean, it’s a learning process. I’m new. It’s a learning process. Knowing what we do need to clarify within the budget to make it easier for people to understand. So, you know, this is good. This is all good.” | POSITIVE |
| 1:26:28 | “we definitely need to meet together before the deliberative session” | Whitney: “When moving forward, we as a group need to be thinking about that. And I don’t know I hate to say it, but we definitely need to meet together before the deliberative session. Yes. As a as a collective group.” And at 1:26:41: “Come up with a not a of how we’re going to communicate, summarize what we’ve experienced here as a group, how we’ve found resolution and what the plan is moving forward for even improved transparency.” The meeting that sentence sets up is the one this page cannot show you. | HIGH |
| 1:27:10 | The chair, satisfied — and the report last year’s budget had that this year’s does not | Sprague: “a lot of my questions have been answered. One of the things that I do want to talk about in the future, and I was just looking I had being the Frugal Yankee, I had printed off some information completely unrelated to this, but I had used blank pages from last year’s presentation, which actually break down very helpfully.” At 1:27:52: “Straight employees from last year and exactly what they do, what they get paid, what their hours are, and which I found to be really a hindrance to not have this this year. And we just spent so much time sorting stuff out, which I could have figured out by myself.” Henry, at 1:28:42: “the time to put into doing that, because I can’t get it all of one place. That’s the problem.” | MEDIUM |
| 1:31:32 | The reporting the board is not getting | Crawford: “Mary, I would love to have you add another column year to date calculation. I keep saying that and honest to Pete, and I hope as we go forward that we can have at least quarterly, year to date updates.” Henry: “We are going to have monthly year to date updates, which I have not done yet because of.” Crawford: “But that would be extremely beneficial.” Henry: “I am with you completely. You guys should be getting monthly updates, right?” The monthly financial report had been on the board’s 20 December agenda and its approved minutes record it “Removed for the sake of time”. | MEDIUM |
| 1:32:14 | The number, read off the last page | Sprague: “I think one of the things moving forward and I and I’m looking at the last page, page 55.” Crawford: “Of which copy.” Sprague: “Of of the latest copy. Good. And it’s showing an increase of of 4%.” The published summary page for that budget puts it at 4.11 per cent — $34,880,311.71 to $36,313,407.97, an increase of $1,433,096.26. He then reaches for a benchmark: “And I listened to Fill Scott this morning. He’s giving a preliminary of the state of the state in Vermont. Report. And he was talking about how Social Security just one of 3%. And he he was saying that he doesn’t want a state budget to exceed 3%.” “Fill Scott” is Phil Scott, then Governor of Vermont — a neighbouring state’s executive, not a New Hampshire standard | OBSERVATION |
| 1:33:01 | The question the committee decides it cannot answer alone | Sprague: “So I think one of the things that we need to talk to the rest of the board is, is what what do they see acceptable as a, as an increase is 4% okay? Or is it is it too much. Is it too little. What what is it.” Whitney at 1:33:35: “So this is an including this 4% increase. Hasn’t include our Warren articles either. Does it?” Henry: “Any new Warren articles. But remember, this also does include your teachers contract in the second year, your Claremont Admin Association and your paraprofessional contracts, which totaled almost, what, $700,000 and then the increase to health insurance.” “Warren articles” is the recognizer’s warrant articles throughout | OBSERVATION |
| 1:34:01 | A board member does the arithmetic on live television | Crawford: “So if I can take last year’s grand total, which you said, even though the categories varied, the grand total is solid.” Then: “So if I use the current one of 34, eight, 80.” (1:34:18) — “And then multiply it. I’m using 3.75 because that’s what the teachers are. That’s the increase for the teachers.” — “And I multiply the 34,000 times 1.0375. I get 36188. I’m rounding which is.” Her arithmetic is right: $34,880,311.71 × 1.0375 = $36,188,323, and the gap to the budget on the table is about $125,000. At 1:35:14: “So 130,000. So so my argument this is all concept. If we could cut 130,000 out of that, out of that current budget okay.” | OBSERVATION |
| 1:35:33 | The case she would make to the voters | Crawford: “if I cut 130 000, that would be a 3.75% increase. I, as a board member, could argue with the public that the increase is most. If 85% of a school district’s budget is personnel, and they have already agreed because last year they supported the two year contract for the teachers, they’ve already supported a 3.75% increase in this year’s budget.” And at 1:36:07: “I say, budget goes up 3.75 because most of it is teacher related, which the public has already approved. I could live with that number.” | OBSERVATION |
| 1:36:21 | What the increase actually buys | Whitney: “So we have like 700,000 is really it’s roughly 700,000 increase above and beyond the contracted obligations.” Crawford: “So what are we getting for that 700,000?” Whitney, at 1:37:00: “We’re increasing positions is what we’re doing.” Henry: “400,000 alone in social workers.” Crawford lists them at 1:37:12: “so the you’ve got social workers at the elementary school, you’ve got the curriculum coach at the elementary school, you’ve got the, the health position at the technical school.” The published summary page bears the $400,000 out: function 2113, Social Worker, rises from $72,500.47 to $500,554.27 — up 590 per cent, the largest proportional increase on the page. | OBSERVATION |
| 1:37:52 | The presentation, and who will build it | Whitney: “that’s what I want to have a conversation about.” and “At our maybe our next meeting is, is that we need to be able to collectively be able to say, this is.” Crawford: “This is well, you have to package how you’re going to sell it.” Henry: “We should put together a PowerPoint presentation is what we should do.” | HIGH |
| 1:38:36 | The three collective-bargaining warrant articles, from memory | Henry: “189 for the Paris? Is it 158 for the Secretary’s? I think. And it’s just almost a 160 for the for the maintenance, I think. Wasn’t it Frank? Right around 160 it was. They’re both right around the same.” The paraprofessional figure is exact: the district’s budget-priorities document for the 3 January hearing puts the re-opened paraprofessional contract at ESTIMATED ADDITIONAL IMPACT TO THE BUDGET: $189,209.00 FY 25. that line is from the district’s budget presentation, not the recording | POSITIVE |
| 1:39:02 | “That’s paying for itself.” | Sprague: “So so the paras. That’s an easy one. Well because of the fact that we are” — “Sunsetting the, the behavioral specialists that’s sort of paying for itself.” Whitney corrects him: “Well, it’s not because of behavioral specialists have been paid for by Esser.” Henry: “That’s not it. Of them were not.” Sprague, at 1:39:19: “You’re talking that’s 400 K in my mind. And so that’s fine. That’s paying for itself.” and “So that’s easy. That’s an easy sell.” On the numbers established twenty minutes earlier, the chair is right and the board chair is wrong: eight of the eleven posts were locally funded. | POSITIVE |
| 1:39:28 | The question is put, and deferred | Crawford: “Oh my bigger question to the two of you is are you are you okay with the 36 million 318. Or do you want to see that reduced to 36188?” Whitney: “I think we need to have a conversation with the board about that.” Sprague: “I do too.” That is the last thing said about the total in any televised meeting before the board adopted $36,117,406.87 on 17 January — a figure below both options put here. | HIGH OBSERVATION |
| 1:39:46 | The swap confirmed, for the record such as it is | Henry: “Can I just make sure I’m clear on something before you guys because you talked about the social worker. So you’re talking about removing a social worker from the elementary and adding a coach? Yes.” Crawford: “We’re just changing the name.” Henry: “So you’re going to move one of them into a coaching position, correct? Okay. Just making sure.” Two elementary social workers and one coach. The budget adopted twelve days later has one and one. | HIGH |
| 1:40:17 | “So don’t mix messages there.” | Sprague: “I think the assignment will be to, come up with with, with talking points. And I think one of the we certainly can sell the para raises as, as an efficiency.” Crawford stops it: “You’ve got to keep you’ve got to make sure you keep that separate because those are worn articles and you can’t mix and match because those increases in the pair are not in the regular budget right now because it’s a separate Warren article. So don’t mix messages there.” Whitney: “But well, we want to support the the Warren article too.” | POSITIVE |
| 1:41:12 | The SAU apportionment, and why Claremont’s share moved | Crawford: “would you I would like you to show me how you did the calculation for the s a portion that’s in our budget.” Henry: “It changed because of your property values. It shifted. Your property values went up and unities did not. So it’s shifted because your 50% property value of 50%.” And at 1:41:43: “Unity has not been reevaluated yet. But when they’re reevaluated, the shift will happen again.” the calculation is the one RSA 194-C:9 prescribes — half on average daily membership, half on equalized valuation; the SAU line rises from $2,176,249.00 to $2,295,585.99 on the published summary page | |
| 1:42:07 | Two presentations, and a vote asked for in advance | Whitney: “I think we’re going to have to do two presentations quite frankly. One is going to be to the board, which hopefully the public will be engaged with the board. And we’re going to ask for an approval of the budget that night. The board. We have to because it has to be.” And at 1:42:25, Crawford: “Together so we can sell it to the.” | |
| 1:42:26 | “do we want to have this the powwow meeting be televised as well” | Whitney: “We have to do at least one more meeting with the administrative team. And, I don’t know if we need since we’ve had this conversation, I’m going to ask you guys, since we’ve had all these conversations in public, do we want to have this the powwow meeting be televised as well, or is that something we can do at the essay at the.” “the essay” is the recognizer’s the SAU Sprague: “A work session? I think with.” Whitney: “Because we’re not we’re not talking about” Crawford: “Introducing new topics.” Whitney: “We’re not introducing okay.” Crawford: “Or introducing more information.” Henry: “Exactly. Pusher trying to put together a presentation which is different.” Whitney, at 1:43:01: “It is working. I just wanted to make sure that we clarified that, that we don’t want to think, we don’t want it coming across like we’re we’re just we’re trying”. The whole exchange takes thirty-five seconds and settles it. | HIGH |
| 1:43:10 | The plan, stated | Whitney: “but that’s the purpose of that meeting. And then we’re going to present as the finance committee assignments subcommittee to the whole board and on this and the community on the 17th, make a motion for approval of the budget to move, to be moved forward.” Henry, on her own deadline, at 1:43:33: “Yeah, I’ve done by the 24. Yes. I have to be able to get it in so that we can post the thing from the DRA and you know what I mean. That had to be the 24th.” DRA is the New Hampshire Department of Revenue Administration; the board’s approved minutes of 17 January put the last day to post the warrant and budget at 29 January | HIGH |
| 1:43:51 | The whole budget, not just the local part | Whitney: “I really do want to know all the positions that are being funded by grants and the whole budget, not just the budget by which what the local taxpayers are paying now.” And at 1:44:16: “I think it’s important for the community to know what our actual, what we’re paying per kid.” Crawford: “I do think that it’s important to keep the numbers separate.” and, at 1:44:30: “So the public understands what we’re paying for and what the administration, with their work in getting the grants, would they have to do moneys? We have to support this educational program.” This is the board’s own request from the hearing, restated: the approved minutes of 3 January record “Request from the board for an overview of all dollars going to support professional learning (including grants and other funding sources) as well as an overview of all the funds that are spent from all sources”. that sentence is from the approved minutes, not the recording | OBSERVATION |
| 1:44:44 | A fifth budget version, named on air and held by nobody | Sprague: “So do we have any positions in this one five document that maybe in this budget that should be in grants?” Henry: “I would say no, because I have gone through them. And the thing I really have, I went through line by line.” “this one five document” is the 1/5 budget, handed out at this meeting, in the same naming convention as “the 1218 budget” and “the 1220 budget” used earlier No document of that date exists in any district share. | MEDIUM |
| 1:45:09 | A reading specialist moves onto the tax base because a school is not poor enough | Sprague: “The literacy, the literacy person at Maple.” — “Because of of the statistics of free reduced lunch.” Henry: “We’re adding adding the literacy person is the reading specialist is coming into the budget because well that was something that he wanted in.” and “It’s not title one. It’s coming into the general budget because title one funds shifted from what I understand.” Sprague: “That school has doesn’t have the eligibility.” The district’s own memo prices it: Added a Reading Specialist position. Total cost with benefits $110,534 under Maple Changes. from the budget memo of 3 January 2024 | |
| 1:45:47 | The mayor’s email: certifying children for meals from Medicaid instead of paperwork | Sprague: “How many of you got the email from Dale.” — “And Dale Girard, the mayor,” — “Was asking about the the benefits of the.” Whitney: “Direct certification” and, at 1:46:15: “We need desperately. And it would avoid the whole free and reduced lunch fiasco trying to run around.” and “We wouldn’t have to collect the data. It would come directly from the state. And there’s been resistance to that because.” Henry: “Eligible in and be considered direct certified.” and, on timing, “They probably be July 1st. If they if they devoted on January, no, it wouldn’t be for this year. It would be for next year.” Sprague: “And it eliminates the struggles we have with getting people, people to fill.” A bill on exactly this had been described to the board on 20 December by a state representative; the approved minutes of that meeting record “HB601 medicaid direct certification for free and reduced meals”. | |
| 1:48:14 | What restricted money is like to spend | Henry: “Title one is that and these these grants we get are great. But they’re very particular on what you can spend them on. So sometimes you can’t fit them in to spend the money. Right. It just you know, you can be given so much money and it’s you go, what am I supposed to do with it?” Sprague: “Stephanie Hurst told us, pretty much told us that.” the recognizer gives that surname at 0.61 confidence — the weakest of six renderings of it across this corpus; the person is a former SAU 6 curriculum director and literacy specialist, and the reference is recorded here only because the transcript carries it | |
| 1:49:10 | The administration asks to be given a target first | Koski: “But if we could get targets at the beginning of the budget process. So if you say we want a 3% increase, we want a 4% increase. It’d be much nicer process to have that target.” Whitney: “We just didn’t know.” Henry, at 1:49:33: “And if we can’t meet it, we come in and say this is as far as we can get it.” Crawford: “And to be honest, you know, tell us, you know, to meet this, we’ve had to eliminate this, this and this, right. We can live with that.” Sprague, at 1:50:12: “I did. I suggested we give you a percentage number.” | POSITIVE |
| 1:49:45 | “it is your budget” | Henry: “And then it’s your decision on whether you want to do that, you know, and and that’s the big thing too is I’ve said all along it is your budget.” Whitney: “But honestly, I don’t think we even knew what the budget really like.” Koski: “We didn’t know, and I understand anything was.” Henry: “I feel better about it. How’s that.” | POSITIVE |
| 1:50:49 | The meeting nobody could watch is scheduled, in four exchanges | Sprague: “You could say 9:00 on Wednesday.” Whitney: “9:00 on Wednesday.” Crawford: “At the Dow building.” Whitney: “It’s not available Wednesday. We could. I got to be somewhere warm.” Henry, at 1:51:05: “We could meet and Mike’s officers. There’s small enough number of us.” Crawford, at 1:51:13: “So I’ll show up at the office at 9:00 on Wednesday? Yep.” Henry: “The 10th.” All three members of the committee, an agreed time, an agreed place. No notice, no recording and no minutes of it exist. | HIGH |
| 1:51:22 | Close | Sprague: “Okay. Anybody else have anything else? For the good of the order.” Crawford: “Thank you so much.” Whitney: “Oh. It’s Mike’s. Thank you. Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Steve.” No motion to adjourn, and none taken. The tape runs on for about forty-five seconds and stops. | HIGH |