| 0:00:07 |
Gavel, Pledge, roll |
"630 and we're going to commence the August 2nd, 2023 Claremont School Board meeting. All attendance. Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance." Then the chair names the roll-caller: "Ben Nester is our honorary secretary. And please, if you could perform the roll call for today." The district clerk's seat had no candidate in the March 2023 election and stayed vacant all year, so the special-education director read the roll. Six of seven members answer; Whitney Skillen is on vacation. |
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| 0:01:18 |
Three donations accepted without a motion |
The chair thanks "the Claremont Savings Bank and the Jack and Dorothy Burns [Byrne] Foundation for their continued generosity" and reads the amounts out "Just for the public to know": $2,000 to Bluff Elementary for outdoor learning-space seating, $1,000 to Bluff for playground and physical-education equipment, and $1,000 to the district for the Back to School Festival. Disposition: "So if there's no dissent or request not to move forward with the consent agenda, we will assume that it's consented." The agenda listed all three, the minutes record all three, and they were accepted in public session — which is precisely what the unanticipated-funds statute requires for gifts under $20,000. Nobody moved anything and no vote was taken. |
POS OBS |
| 0:02:39 |
Citizens' comments: the Tech Center's summer camp |
"Good evening, Alex Herzog, Ward two, but director of the tech center here." Three camps in one week, "about 35 students in attendance… all middle school students, either sixth, seventh and eighth grade"; culinary and engineering, "which engineering this year used drones. Thanks to our Perkins Grant." At 0:03:14: "Thanks to the financial support from the counties, they donated $1,000 to us. And the camp does cost $25 a student to attend. But they got free lunches from the soup kitchen every day and breakfast was offered to them." Every student got a T-shirt carrying the Tech Center and Kiwanis logos. The $1,000 from "the counties" does not appear on this or any later agenda as an accepted donation. |
OBS |
| 0:04:03 |
A former member speaks against a policy on tonight's agenda |
Steven Horsky, who resigned this board on the record six weeks earlier, opens with a procedural question — "Is the citizens comments for non-agenda items" — and the chair waives the limit: "Yes. Not agenda items. Well you can actually if you'd like to speak to it." He identifies himself only as "Steven Ward two"; the minutes supply the surname. At 0:04:41: "once we implemented the policy as written, we noticed that a lot less families were calling to complain about it, and there seems to be less infestations per classroom taking place. I unfortunately, because of somebody having it with the no net [nit] policy, got to spend a lot of time knitting [nitting] a household, and I don't think anybody should have to do that." His recommendation, at 0:05:10: keep the policy "as it is not changing it to the recommended status, because we reverted from that years ago." |
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| 0:06:23 |
Why last meeting's exhibits were missing |
The superintendent answers a complaint carried over from July 19, when a resident found the three letters of intent for the vacant board seat absent from the public packet: "just a response to the was a concern citizen related to the letters of intent not being attached to the agenda last meeting and those the reason for that was we didn't get those redacted in time. There was… too much personal information on those. But they've since been rectified." The agenda for this meeting carries the same problem in its own file name. |
OBS |
| 0:07:23 |
Six central-office changes, and a curriculum director whose name nobody has |
"Brianna Connell took over as the out of district coordinator for For Dave, who retired this week. Megan Fagan's [Fagans] also took over for the position of assistant to the assistant superintendent. Laurie Maori [Lori] also started in the business office today as a as a specialist accounting specialist." At 0:07:57: "Karen White is also was moved from the position of assistant to Mr. Kosky [Koski] to the payroll office," and "Kat Lynn, who goes by Kat McLaughlin, has come to be our curriculum director… most recently in Cornwall on a two year stint." The minutes settle two of these: "Lori Mowrey, Staff Accountant" and "Catlin 'Cat' McLaughlin, Curriculum Director." Tempesta closes: "we're we're stabbed [staffed] pretty well right now." |
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| 0:09:08 |
The only budget question asked of the staffing report |
Sprague: "So, so Karen White was Mike's assistant. Yeah. And she had a salary. Yes. So she moved to payroll, which has another salary? Yeah, in the budget. So which is her salary now? Did you bring her old salary with her?" Tempesta: "No, I think she she went to the the new salary that was posted in table" (0:09:28) — and referred the detail to the SAU 6 board: "we'll have all of that at the saw. We had a meeting yesterday, and we talked about that with Arlene to get everything, in terms of credentials." No figure was given at this table. |
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| 0:09:57 |
Six open positions, and two combined grades at Bluff |
Asked by Gallagher how staffing stood: "some positions. Are really tough to find some science positions. At the at the middle school and high school. We have had some of our teachers. Expressed that they wanted to leave their contracts and go to other places, which we're trying to hold them to their contracts right now as they were signed." At 0:10:42: "right now we have about six positions that are still open," and at Bluff "they're going to combine two grades." At 0:15:35: "I think it was 27. Students were in fifth grade. We had three fifth grade openings in one in each school, and we just don't have any candidates at all." Miles pressed the practical consequence — one teacher covering two grades' curriculum, teachers who had volunteered, numbers promised "by the next meeting." The CMS handbook in the same packet prints eight staff lines as TBD. |
MED MED |
| 0:17:35 |
The agenda is reordered from the chair |
"I'm going to ask for the board to give me some grace here. And knowing that we have two principals here, it would. Would there be any objection for us to move the review of the handbooks to the first item on the agenda?" Miles: "I think it's a good idea." Chair: "Yeah. Let's do it." No motion, no vote — and the minutes do not record the change at all; they simply renumber the discussion items so that handbooks appear as item 1 and the technology presentation as item 2, reversing the posted order without saying so. |
OBS |
| 0:18:19 |
The elementary handbook: lawyers in, content unchanged |
Melissa Lewis: the district's lawyers were asked, "Hey, could you please take a look at our our student handbooks? Family handbooks. We want to make sure that they have all of the information that they should contain. Do we have redundant information and just get that additional lens." At 0:18:37: "we've gone through and updated we got all of the new hires at six [SAU 6]. We will do another double check. We certainly updated calendars. We updated report card schedules… then literally whatever the attorney suggested for revisions, we certainly include those. Otherwise, there was no, revisions of content to the handbook." Miles noted the policy committee was bringing new policies that night; Lewis: "all of that absolutely can be updated because we don't use a printer for it" (0:19:28). |
MED |
| 0:20:07 |
Two members read the draft and find what the lawyers did not |
Miles at 0:20:07: "I notice at the end of and I can't recall which handbook they had that confirmation that the parent received… Do you do that at the element with the elementary Handbook? I didn't see it there." Lewis: it exists as a checkbox in online registration and will be added back for hard copy. Crawford at 0:20:32: "And on page 19 it says first quarter parent teacher conferences are scheduled for November 14th, 2022." That sentence is in the posted draft, and it is the only occurrence of 2022 in the whole 103,000-character document — the members caught what a legal review of the same file did not. The minutes place it on page 14; the recording says page 19. |
MED |
| 0:21:55 |
A vote begun, then stopped, because one member was not ready |
Chair: "Would we like to move forward tonight to, vote on this, or would you like to hold off until next week to vote with small changes?" Sprague: "I think we could we could approve it tonight… With contingent. On that. That the changes. Be made." Miles moved it (0:22:37): "I move that we accept the elementary Claremont Elementary, 2324 family and student elementary handbook. With the amended or with the included changes." A second is audible from an unidentified voice. On "All opposed?" Gallagher answered yes, then explained (0:23:01): "Just wanted to wait until next week. But I did it yet. I was still reading." The chair treated it as dispositive rather than counting: "I believe if was my understanding that there was a unanimous consent to vote. If if not, then do not feel bad by saying… We can wait. We will wait them." The motion is not in the minutes at all. |
POS |
| 0:23:51 |
The Stevens handbook: a dress-code diagram and the Chandler salute |
Chris Pratt: "the handbook that you have in front of you for the high school is pretty much the same as as last year. We went through the same process with the lawyers as well… we have minor changes, like in the behavior matrix." At 0:24:11: "We added more language to clarify dress code. We added this to the visual of the dress code for the high school" — page 55. Sprague at 0:24:50 recalled the school's old practice: "back when I had, when I was working there, we had Susan Chandler was the assistant principal when I first started, and girls were required to do what was called the Chandler salute, and they had to put their hands at their sides and their shorts had to be longer than their fingers." Pratt, at 0:25:14: "I've dealt with that in the past. Other high schools where the arguments touched that just because my student has short arms, they shouldn't be penalized… So I just said, here's a. Here's a diagram." |
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| 0:25:56 |
Community-service hours: the clarification that is not in the draft |
Pratt: "that's on page 60 of what we're expecting for community service hours. Say a student moves here their junior year. They're not required to do all 48 hours to graduate just based on that, because we find at the end of the year it's a huge push… if they don't have all 48 hours of community service, they don't graduate." The posted draft's community-service section sets out the ladder — "48 hours total / 12 by the end of grade 9 / 24 by the end of grade 10 / 36 by the end of grade 11 / 48 in order to graduate!" — and contains no proration for a student who transfers in. The word prorate does not appear anywhere in the document, and its single use of transfer is in the definition of a course competency. |
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| 0:26:43 |
"This is a work in progress" |
Miles: "I had a problem with the pagination. It doesn't. The table of contents pages, unless I messed up, don't match the pages of the handbook itself." At 0:26:56: "I like when you just now said page 60. I looked at page 60 and it says posters, photo release, digital passes, administration of medication." Pratt explained the mechanism at 0:27:07 — the contents are regenerated last, after new-hire names go in, "because we still need to update some names for new teachers and hires and stuff" — and accepted Miles's characterisation at 0:27:34: "Work in progress." The posted draft bears her out: its own table of contents heads the staff list "Stevens High School Staff 2022-2023" while the body heads it 2023-2024, and puts the dress code at page 62 where Pratt cited 55. |
MED |
| 0:28:09 |
Is there anything in here about AI? |
Miles: "when it comes to the academic dishonesty cheating portion. Is there any thought about the AI apps that kids are using?" The chair supplied the noun — ChatGPT — and Pratt answered at 0:28:27: "we have program now that will help us. Teachers have already been using it this year because those are the the AI apps have gotten so much more advanced just in this past six months that teachers are already checking that and that if we find that to be the case, it still falls under the academic policy." Nothing was added to the draft. The posted 2023-2024 Stevens handbook contains no occurrence of AI, ChatGPT or "artificial intelligence." |
MED |
| 0:28:48 |
A school with no deans, and a teacher who had left |
Miles asked whether Stevens had deans. Pratt: "No, it's myself and two assistants." Miles: "There in the out-of-school suspensions section. I'm not going to reference the page number. It does mention the administration or deans" (0:28:50). Pratt: "we try to blanket everyone… But I can take that out." The draft contains exactly one occurrence of Dean, in the out-of-school-suspension re-entry paragraph. Gallagher then asked at 0:29:20, "under the staff, do you not have, Mr. Pascucci any longer?" — Pratt: "No, we do, we just like I said, we still have to update all the stuff." That name appears nowhere in the posted draft. |
MED |
| 0:29:40 |
Athletic eligibility at a C minus |
The chair, flagging her own timing — "Maybe the inappropriate time, but I'm going to ask anyway. As far as eligibility for playing sports" — pressed on the standard: "I believe in student athletes so I have a tough. I've had a tough time with C minus." Pratt referred it up at 0:30:10: "None of this has been changed since I've been here. So I would say the grading aspect would fall into board policy. So you'd have to look." Sprague: "I think a C minus is an old D minus." The chair at 0:31:25: "C minus is a two. There is no D, there's an re [RE]." The draft's own text is narrower than the discussion assumed: eligibility turns on "demonstrating progress toward competency," which it defines as "equivalent to earning higher than a C-", and it points to board policy JJIC. Nothing was changed. |
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| 0:32:12 |
The Stevens handbook goes back without a vote |
Chair: "So this evening we were not planning on voting on this. Can we send Mr. Pratt with the the changes that we have? Small changes that we mentioned. I don't think Mr. Pratt needs to be here if to vote on it again." Crawford asked whether the C-minus point would be clarified; the chair deferred it to the policy. Miles closed with praise for the restitution and dress-code layout — "It's a very distinct process. And I think it's very clear for parents and students to understand" — and Pratt explained why: "at any given point, there's three of us who could be working on discipline. And consistency to us is one of the most important things." Minutes: "The school board recommends some changes to be made prior to the handbook being approved at the next meeting." |
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| 0:33:10 |
One handbook, two buildings |
Miles: "It's on the front page. It says Stevens High School in Sugar River Valley Regional Tech Center. Is this one handbook for both buildings?" Pratt: "Alex and I, we all use it. Same building." The exchange passes in ten seconds and is not in the minutes; twenty-one minutes before the end of the meeting the same building's permitted use becomes the longest argument of the night. |
MED |
| 0:33:45 |
The district's online presence, presented without slides |
Jeff Small: "I don't have something to to show you right off." The district moved to Apptegy — heard as apogee and "App Deji" — "probably the start. It's almost right before Covid… not only do they have a website, but they it also came with an app." He demonstrated it live from a phone later in the item: school selection, live feeds, events, menus, staff directory, and push alerts. The minutes name the vendor correctly and note the app is "available on Apple store or Google Play." |
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| 0:38:07 |
"I don't have the time to devote to that" |
The heart of the technology item is a capacity confession. Small: "I don't have the time to devote to that. I just don't, and, I know Chelsea's doing her best, but she's got a lot of things." At 0:38:33, on finding the policies: "I had to find where those were because, again, neither one of us had done that before. We actually had a person devoted well, they did other things, but that was a big chunk of their time." At 0:38:58 he named the post other districts use — "positions called an application coordinator" — and at 0:39:54 made the ask: "Even putting staff names. I know it seems simple. But, you know, when you go in and a fire panel is going off or some security things going off, I can't I can't put names on the website. So, you know, you're always prioritizing what we need to do. So I definitely ask the board to consider a position." At 0:40:21: "I wouldn't say this is a full time job." Department strength, at 0:41:08: "it's myself, a system admin and then a technician support." |
OBS |
| 0:41:45 |
Rostering, defined at a board member's request |
Crawford: "Would you please define the word rostering. What does that mean." Small: "if I have a program and I need to log in… I have to be able to pull information like a username first name, last name into this application. So then that application knows when I'm logging in who I am." Koski added the scale at 0:45:24: "every textbook now has a digital version. And so every text used throughout the system needs to be rostered. And that's where it becomes overwhelming." Small on the security posture: "here's one key thing for security. We never I will never let any application come in and take data. So everything we do, we push to those applications." Sprague, who had built a similar system: "But I was a guidance counselor, and I did that." |
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| 0:47:22 |
The request is routed to budget season |
Chair: "So is this something you think you may be presenting at? Budget season to be discussed?" Small: "I did. I hope so. Absolutely." Sprague set the terms of the eventual proposal: "my request for that presentation would be what are the apps and what's the frequency that the rostering takes place? And also what's the frequency with which somebody would ask for that." Miles later asked whether the phone-system savings would cover the post; Small: "this year it may be kind of a wash a little bit, but there's still be a savings." The chair declined to speculate — "I think we'll wait for the proposal" — and the minutes record only that "The school board would like a presentation at budget season for the application coordinator position." |
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| 0:48:34 |
The school board's Facebook page is switched off as an experiment |
Small put it to the chair: "about the Claremont School dish? Claremont Facebook page. So if you want me to just take it down, I can." Miles raised the constraint the board operates under: "We can't we can't respond to a Facebook question. We shouldn't put any information… Other than meeting dates and so on." Crawford proposed the test at 0:49:54: "It'd be interesting just as a, to take it down and see what the response notices… We were just to try it out, you know, over the next two weeks." Small: "if they're on Facebook, they will find ways to get Ahold of us." Gallagher narrowed the target — "we're just talking about taking down the school board page" — and the chair asked for a report back "if anybody contacted the district and seemed concerned at all with the absence." No motion, no vote; the minutes record it as decided. |
OBS |
| 0:54:50 |
Why staff email addresses came off the website |
Demonstrating the staff directory: "this is how it shows on the website. So it'll have their name and then their title. We did have to get rid of emails because AI and bots grab those emails and just start spamming." The chair tested the framing — "It's not a ploy to keep people from reaching people at the South [SAU], is what you're saying" — and Small agreed: "You can call and go, okay, is this person that I need to get in touch with this person or not?" Miles pressed on what a caller actually gets: no extension, just "a general number that calls for the office in the same with the high school." Directory contact details are governmental records in form as well as substance; nothing at the table treated the removal as anything but a spam measure. |
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| 0:56:10 |
A phone system, and two-way radios tested in Unity |
"we are now on a unified telephones. They're all enhanced 911. So if I'm dialing from a which we needed to be, if I'm dialing from a room, they will know which room that call came from." Cost, at 0:57:12: "I don't like paying $100 for fax line… now it's $40 in all the buildings because we're all on the same system," and at 1:01:30, "it goes from hundreds of dollars to less than a hundred a month." Then the radios, at 0:57:56: "Unity got some, some walkie talkies. I've been talking with Paul Mountain… we are testing them in unity, and today was my first." Tempesta at 1:00:00: "the price per unit is, is half of what, the so-called doomsday ones that you have with police and fire that we've been looking at for years." Small hoped to "use, potentially semester [ESSER] funds"; no procurement or funding decision was asked for or taken. |
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| 1:03:24 |
The bus-driver shortage, and a waiver the athletic directors want kept |
Tempesta: "I had the opportunity to meet with principal Romeo. Both Athletic Directors Guild praise [Beaupre] and strong [LaPlante] as well at the middle school… They recommend, out of just a abundance of caution to their recommendation, is to extend specifically the waiver." At 1:03:51: "there are three new drivers that Pam is training now in the mix with potentially a fourth," and at 1:04:17, "we also are about to receive one of our busses that we used Esser money for completely air conditioning conditioned wheelchair bus. And we are waiting to hear if we on another bus as well also as are [ESSER] funded." Timing, at 1:05:08: "she estimates that all three of those drivers should be ready to go by September or October on the conservative side." The district trains its own drivers — "we run our entire fleet through that garage… Most places contract out to services." |
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| 1:07:01 |
A waiver with no expiration, and a board that fixes one |
Asked for a recommended expiry, Tempesta: "they didn't say it explicitly, but what they were inferring is if you just keep it in place, we could give an update by the season… But I think on the form itself, it didn't have an expiration." Miles: "I think we should formally extend it. So we're not questioned about that" (1:07:19). She moved it at 1:08:03 — "Make a motion to to that. We put an extension on this transportation we want [waiver]" — and an unidentified voice asked the sharp question at 1:08:45: "So I don't understand why wouldn't we just extend it longer instead of keep on extending? Why would we keep extending it." Sprague's answer is the most consequential sentence in the item. |
MED |
| 1:08:59 |
"According to our lawyer, this is not liability free" |
Sprague, moving to amend: "Amend the motion. To align with our sports seasons. And the reason why is, According to our lawyer, this is not liability free. This is not car launch [carte blanche]. And so I'm. I really don't want to use this. I really don't. And so I think in, November, if Pam has a couple of more drivers, more people in place than we can just. We can just stop." Tempesta clarified the scope at 1:09:30: "It is only for the middle school. So the, the high school wouldn't do this because the defaults, as it is traditionally in most school districts are high school." The form the board was extending is a parental release and indemnity, signed for a minor, with a notary line. |
MED |
| 1:09:58 |
Three motions, one vote each, and a second the chair says is not needed |
Chair: "Now we're having a discussion. We have to vote whether or not we want to to amend the motion." Sprague moved the question at 1:10:16; the chair took it by unanimous consent and then the amendment: "Is there any objection to moving the question and not have any discussion? Okay. All in favor of amending the motion for Frank's amendment? Say aye. I oppose none, so we can now vote and discuss the amended motion" (1:10:19). She then asked for the wording in a form the recorder could use — "if somebody would like to create a nice motion with language that Chelsea can transcribe" (1:11:00) — and Crawford supplied it at 1:11:09: "Can I make a motion to accept the transportation waiver form for the fall sports season for the Claremont Middle School?" Gallagher: "I'll second that." Chair: "We don't need a second." Voice vote; "Motion passes" (1:11:37). The minutes record Gallagher's second anyway, which is what the Right-to-Know Law asks for. Nothing in the record amends the form itself to carry the fall-season limit. |
MED |
| 1:12:27 |
A draft budget timeline, and an invitation to open the process |
Mary Henry: "I'm going to start with the, budget timeline, which I gave you guys. It's a draft one… I haven't got the SB two timelines from the state yet to be able to fill those in." Then the substantive proposal, at 1:12:49: "I really would like everybody involved in the budget process this year. I think that's important. It's very hard. And I'm not saying a budget committee isn't good, but it's hard when you're, you know, two people are looking at it and then they're coming back and giving information. Whereas if you all get the information, you all can make the decision." She asked the board to think about it rather than decide — "we can bring that up at the next meeting" — and said she wanted to advance the timeline: "the sooner we can get our budget together, the sooner we can start going out to the public and letting them know where we're at." |
POS |
| 1:13:52 |
The audit backlog: weekly meetings, no timelines |
"we did have our new hire today, Lori Murray [Mowrey]. And I've been like on cloud nine all day." Restructuring the office "into, kind of different camps to get things done. Audit being one of them… I've been in touch with our auditors on a regular basis. We're having weekly meetings." Then the gap, at 1:14:38: "I don't have timelines for all the audits yet. Hopefully I can have another update at the next meeting, and I can nail Mike [Campo] down to a few more, dates." And at 1:15:09: "there's a lot of work to do in the business office, and we need all hands on deck." No board member asked which fiscal years were outstanding, what the auditor had reported, or when a report would come — the same silence recorded on this board two weeks earlier. |
MED |
| 1:15:09 |
Adequacy aid, from FY2020 forward |
"So on to the fun stuff. Adequacy aide. I want to start off by saying adequacy aide has made some major changes since the lawsuit that was filed in March of 2019. The state has been trying very hard ever since then to go in and make adjustments to the formula every year since the lawsuit took place." The presentation (Exhibit H) walks FY2020 to FY2024 change by change: kindergarten counted as full average daily membership; free-and-reduced additional aid; pre-Covid counts substituted in FY2022 "because of course, during Covid people had withdrawn, people had moved"; the one-time statewide education property tax reduction in FY2023; and the FY2023 relief aid and $650-per-pupil extraordinary grant. |
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| 1:18:57 |
FY2024: rates up, two grants repealed, one grant multiplied thirteenfold |
"Then we come to fiscal year 24. Swept went back to normal, which was like a $400,000 swing base and differential rates were increased while the third grade reading aid was repealed… Relief aid in fiscal year 12 stabilization grant were also repealed. So you'll notice in this year they took away the stabilization grant, which was roughly took 6.2 million." At 1:19:26: "But they put in the extraordinary grant. Base amount went from 652 [$650 to] 8500 per student." The rates, at 1:29:13: "base adequacy aid went from 3866 to 4100. Biggest jump we've had yet. The most we usually have, like I said, is 2% every two years. And that has gone on forever. Has not kept up with inflation. Free and reduced. Same thing. They went from 1900 to $2300 a kid." Exhibit H's own tables carry the same figures to the cent. |
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| 1:30:17 |
The number the headline rates conceal: Claremont receives $142,000 less |
"$142,000 under. So we're receiving $142,000 less than we did in fiscal year 23 to fiscal year 24. And that is because of swept. Swept is your biggest change here along with the extraordinary grant. But again swept went back up. That's where we really lost the money. Like I told you, it was a one time deal. It's a big difference of 420,000." Exhibit H's table: FY2023 actual total adequacy aid $14,425,557.16 against FY2024 estimated actual $14,283,440.22. The six-year view, at 1:31:09: "you guys have increased your adequacy aid by $2 million since then… in some cases it's gone down for towns." And the caution she attached to it: "when you go from 2 million up to 1.8 million down, that shifts your tax rate… what is driving your tax rate is the amount of money that you're raising." |
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| 1:20:30 |
The hold-harmless phase-out, stated wrongly and challenged from the table |
"starting in fiscal year 26, though, the hold harmless is going to phase out, which means that they're going to start taking 20% a year for ten years." Sprague did the arithmetic aloud at 1:20:56 — "For ten years." — and again at 1:21:01: "2,000% was 200%." Henry held to the slide at that point: "They do that. Yeah, that's what they said. 20% of the amount for ten years." Exhibit H, slide 6, says the same thing: "They will do this at the rate of 20% per year for 10 years." She came back to it two hours later, at 2:36:31, unprompted and with the board already adjourning. |
MED |
| 1:21:31 |
The lawsuit, and two Claremont witnesses |
"I really do feel the lawsuit is driving a lot of this, because it's coming down to how much inadequacy aid we should be getting for a base adequacy aid per student, which is roughly a little over $9,000 for the lawsuit." Then, at 1:21:59: "I know Mr. Tempesta and myself both testified for the lawsuit over wasn't conquered [in Newport]. I can't think of where it is now. Way over on the other side there. But, like I said, it was it was really interesting to be at and watch." The trial in ConVal School District v. State had closed before Judge David Ruoff three months earlier; his decision was still four months away when this was said. |
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| 1:23:39 |
Why the free-and-reduced count is falling |
"Free and reduced, like I said, is determined by October 1st… The rates that they're giving us per student have substantially increased from the regular 2% every two years. Only students that qualify for free and reduced count toward our adequacy aid calculation." Her diagnosis, at 1:24:33: "Whether you work at McDonald's or you work at Walmart or you work here or wherever you work, those wages have gone up quite a bit. So that could be part of the reason why our numbers are going down. People aren't meeting the guidelines, but Tanev [TANF] and Snap benefits have different income guidelines." Her recommendation was to push the two federal programs whose thresholds are higher, because those enrolments directly certify a child without an application. |
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| 1:33:03 |
Three people, one processing bottleneck, and the line the office will not cross |
Gallagher asked what would make it easier for families to sign up. Henry: "The problem lies with the fact that only certain people can process applications. And there's only three of us. The other thing is that we cannot leave anybody out. So when we do something, we have to promote it to everybody." At 1:33:27: "We can't go door to door. I know that's a great idea, but we really can't, because then we are saying that we know you need help, and and that is not something that we can do." Miles, at 1:42:58: "I don't see how you can do it with three people. That seems like such a lot of work." Henry: "we do work outside of school hours, so I do. So that's my job." |
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| 1:35:00 |
What one application is worth, and the stigma problem |
"you don't have to use it if you don't want to. But if you qualify, it gets to school like at $2,300 a student, which is a lot of money to the tax base." On the stigma, at 1:33:59: "the biggest thing is to promote that. There isn't a stigma with this… We all run on hard times sometimes." Crawford proposed universality as the answer at 1:40:05 — "a way to make it, universal that everyone fills it out so there's no stigma attached… if you have a competition, everybody in the class, you know, bring the form in" — and Henry, who had run a gift-card drive elsewhere, said the incentive worked: "overnight I got 110 applications" (1:38:54). Miles put the local case plainly at 1:42:08: "even if you don't own a house, you're a you're a tenant. And if you're a tenant, your landlord is going to go up and your rent." |
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| 1:37:06 |
How many children qualify — three answers, none of them firm |
Crawford asked for a round number. Henry: "I think it was like 750 or almost seven, 52, 800 last year. I don't I'm not 100% sure, but it's right around there" (1:37:06). Sprague offered a percentage: 45%. Rep. Hope Damon then supplied a comparison at 1:37:18 that the transcript renders unusably — "So I think last year that for qualified was just over 700, and there were 105 children between 5 and 1812, five for Medicaid, for Medicaid" — and drew the conclusion at 1:37:37: "Based on previous numbers, which as noted, there's a lot of moving parts, but we're missing several hundred kids." This page does not reconstruct the middle sentence; the numbers in it are not recoverable from the transcript, and Exhibit H's tables give a different measure — 754.291 free-and-reduced average daily membership for FY2024. |
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| 1:43:58 |
Direct certification, and why the office still wants a paper form |
Miles asked whether families on SNAP still have to file. Henry: "no, they would not have to fill out an application" — they arrive as a direct certification. But at 1:43:58: "I will say this to you, though I still would encourage people to send in the application because the state can make mistakes and if you've just filed for it. It takes time… if someone signs up in August, I can't guarantee you they're going to be in our system as a direct cert by October 1st." And the qualification that matters most for Claremont, from Miles at 1:44:40: "for those who are on Medicaid, that is not an automatic qualification. They have to fill in the form" — confirmed. |
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| 1:45:05 |
Two questions from the vice chair: SWEPT, and what "special ed aid" is |
Sprague: "The swept. Yep. So, that's going away. It sounds like in this current fiscal year." Henry: "The swept tax is not going away. It's going back to normal… the calculation is going from the 975,000 to. Hang on. Let me go back. Right here was 1.3 million 975. You had to raise and it went back up to 1.3" (1:45:17). Then at 1:45:49: "special ed aid. Is that different than the old cat aid?" — "It's different… What is not part of this equation is we recognize as revenue." Asked whether the special-education line rose because of the formula or the caseload, Henry at 1:46:29: "the amount has changed. But we also have about 30 more kids are giving us this year." Exhibit H shows both moving: 354.468 to 381.517 pupils, and the rate from $2,037.11 to $2,100. |
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| 1:49:32 |
"This does a lot to build trust" |
The chair closed the item: "This was extremely informative. And we have spiritual [special] numbers in our hands and the public numbers in their hands and references. And so greatly appreciated. We know this is a lot of time, right. And this does a lot to build trust within the community and in the board." Next month's promise, from 1:48:00: the budget timeline, "some data history on your tax rate, where it's been, how it's been impacted, your equalized value comparisons over the years from probably about 2008, forward." Henry's closing offer: "if you guys come up with any questions please get them through. Heather and and I can answer them." |
POS |
| 1:50:15 |
A two-member subcommittee cannot walk the largest building |
Miles: "we had an appointment scheduled to see the Stevens High School, but now there were only two of us on on that subcommittee, and and Whitney is on vacation… So I apologize to Steven Holt and said we just have to reschedule, but it wouldn't be nice if we had a third person." At 1:50:40: "that's the biggest building we've got… this building being the largest one, I didn't feel I just should just be more. Should be others involved." Crawford, at 1:51:17: "This is no such thing as waiting for volunteers you just assigned people to" — and then volunteered. The chair, at 1:51:41: "Put that in the minutes. We're going to add miss Candy Crawford on to." A subcommittee of a school board is itself a public body under the Right-to-Know Law; no notice, minutes or meeting schedule for this one is discussed anywhere in the record. |
OBS |
| 1:52:05 |
Two policies, from the nurse and the NHSBA sample book |
Hawkins, presenting in the policy chair's absence: "You will find in your packet two suggested updated policies. And this came about from our school. One of our school nurses, Ronnie [Roni], who made some suggestions to have them updated, particularly with the immunization policy. It follows the current New Hampshire immunization records and formerly used to have to have a notarized letter from for a family to be able to claim a an exemption, and now that has been taken away." That is accurate: the notarisation requirement was struck out of the religious-exemption statute by 2022, 55:1, effective July 19, 2022. At 1:52:41: "this is based on the New Hampshire School Board Association recommended policy… this is the first read." On the head-lice policy: "it's based on recommendations from the American Academy of Pediatrics, National Association of Schools nurses, and the CDC" — wording lifted from the sample's own first paragraph. |
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| 1:53:56 |
JLCB moved to second read, then amended from the chair |
Sprague: "Make a motion. We move JLCD [JLCB] to second. Read a second." The chair confirmed the subject — "Is there any discussion. And that's the immunization policy. Yes." Crawford asked where to find the current policy; Hawkins walked her through the website path. Then the chair's amendment, at 1:55:01: "under paragraph B that we strike one under paragraph B and replace it with the appointment date or dates, child is scheduled to receive required vaccinations." Her reason, at 1:55:44: "I would hate to see a kid that hasn't had their vaccination be denied entry into the school. When a homeless and a homeless child can be given access to the school, I think we need to give some leniency. Just for fairness." Dictated into the minutes at 1:57:00: "So Chelsea strike number one under paragraph be number one and make number two, number one." |
HIGH |
| 1:57:54 |
The amendment carries; the main motion's result is never announced |
Hawkins asked for the nurse's input first — "I would also like to have Ronnie's input into that as a school nurse because she was the one who brought this in" (1:57:18) — and it was agreed to invite her to the next meeting. Sprague then moved the amendment formally at 1:57:54: "I'd like to make a motion that we amend the motion with the changes that you've just read." The chair seconded from the chair. Vote on the amendment: carried. The chair restated the main motion at 1:58:20 — "policy JLCB with the amendments as read into the minutes to second read" — and called it at 1:58:39: "All in favor?" The only audible answer is Miles at 1:58:40, "I'm not opposed." No count, no "motion passes," and the minutes record no vote on the amended main motion either. |
MED |
| 1:59:01 |
JLCC moved, seconded, discussed for ten minutes, never voted |
Chair: "Candy Crawford makes a motion to bring sample policy. J l cc head lice on policy to first, second read. All in favor?" Seconds come from Miles and Hawkins before the chair adds "And then we'll have a discussion." Crawford then asked the question the motion had skipped — "Do you know what the difference is? Steve spoke to not changing it." The board debated for ten minutes and the item ended with the chair undertaking to redraft. Crawford's motion is never put, never withdrawn, and never disposed of on the recording or in the minutes. |
MED |
| 1:59:34 |
The head-lice debate: evidence, laundromats and Covid |
The chair set out the history — "there was a period in time where, head lice was running rampant through the school district there… I think Steve actually ran on the issue. And that parents were extremely frustrated" — and then the change the sample policy makes, at 2:00:25: "The changes essentially are that you keep the kid in school, right. This is sending the child home," and at 2:00:32, "there is no requirement that the, school nurses check for lice on a routine basis." Her objection, at 2:00:40: "the CDC says that there is no evidence to support that frequent treks [checks] in school actually identifies lice reinforced or infestation on a meaningful level. This policy, kind of gives the onus onto the parents to check for lice. And my only issue with that is that we did not we did not entrust parents to do temperature checks during Covid." Miles read the policy's own premise back at 2:04:16: "it says here that it's not going to be an additional health problem. So really, it's not a health problem. It's a nuisance." And the counterweight, from the chair at 2:04:37: "there still is an economic and social burden to the parents who may have to pick up their child from school and have their work life disrupted." |
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| 2:05:06 |
Two teachers, unnamed, consulted before the meeting |
"I did reach out to, a two teachers in the school. Just curious about what I'm not going to. I said I wouldn't name names. I'm not name names. What their perception was and, they said it could be very disruptive. And they said that kids that, have lice persistently, it's a distraction for them. It interferes with their learning." Sprague read the current policy against the proposed one at 2:03:07: "the current policy does say that the chronic cases could result in dismissal from school until treatment has begun… There still is the possibility of, of of being sent home." Miles asked whether the district could supply treatment shampoo to families without washers or spare time; no answer was reached. |
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| 2:07:05 |
Four changes, dictated, and a policy sent back to first read |
The chair: "instead of, the school nurse may check the head of student that is demonstrating symptoms that they will and I would also like the child that has live at any time. If they have live, lice should be sent home." At 2:07:31: "There doesn't need to be a no net [nit] policy anymore. There's no evidence, per the CDC, that nits end up resulting in… just because you have nets [nits] doesn't mean that you actually have active lice." Hawkins read the changes back one by one; the chair added a return-to-school check at 2:08:10: "the nurse to check the child on when they return back to school… and then ten days later, they should be retreated and the school nurse to check the head again." Disposition, at 2:08:36–2:08:45: "First read at the next meeting with the potential of passing" — Hawkins: "With the potential of adopting it at the next meeting. So it's ready for the beginning of school." The chair's fallback: "At the very at the worst case scenario, the old policy is still in place, right?" |
POS |
| 2:09:22 |
"The policies that we have approved are not on the website" |
Hawkins, raising it herself: "I'd like to ask the chair to direct the administration, to take care of any technical problems, of getting policies that are presented, updated with the reading dates, and adopted policies uploaded to the website in a timely fashion." The chair reported she had already been working it with Chelsea Weatherford, Jeff Small and Michael Koski; Small, who had told the board an hour earlier that he had had to hunt for the policies himself, said "I thought that was fixed, but I can check in." Hawkins then stated the finding, at 2:09:59: "There seems to be a glitch in getting what we finally vote on into a format that she can include the dates, and then when it's adopted, move it on to the website. So if that's something I think we need to take care of because the policies that we have approved are not on the website." Chair: "I've identified that and I have spoken to Chelsea and I have spoken to Jeff, and Mike is aware." |
OBS |
| 2:11:14 |
The visioning consultant contract, and a programme nobody had seen |
Crawford, reporting for the Visioning Committee: "I did talk to Andy today who is chairing the, visioning committee, and, he said that, I guess my Kosky [Koski] said that the the contract for the consultants is was signed today." Koski corrected her: "It's been mailed." Then, at 2:12:27: "I was at the text [tech] center today… there was, Ben came in with a new, altered [alt ed] director, I guess. And they were looking to put a new old ed [alt ed] program in at the tech center. And I have a concern about that. First of all, it's, not a it's not a legally adopted right? Right. It's not an allowed use." |
MED |
| 2:13:46 |
"RSA that indicate or require that we use this facility for CTE" — and whether they have teeth |
The chair relayed advice received that day: "I had a conversation on with multiple people today and also with Doctor Beard about use of the facilities. And there are there are RSA that indicate or require that we use this facility for CTE related activities. But there is deliberately per doctor beard, no, teeth in those RSA or sanctions for not doing so to allow flexibility within use for the facility." She drew a conclusion from ownership at 2:14:27: "the school district owns the building. Ultimately the school district can decide what to do with the building. And although it would be unfortunate if we did so and we may not receive money in the future for renovations, etc., if it was not kept for CTE activities." And an escape route, at 2:14:59: "even an alternative program if there is a CTE component, if you can show that the kids in the alternative program are learning a skill that is considered a technical skill that they can transfer into the community, it would be in compliance." Crawford: "there are lots of ifs in that statement." |
MED |
| 2:15:50 |
The annual state review, and future renovation money |
Crawford: "I've talked to Jeff Beard also and, and he said it it is not an acceptable use. However there is there are no teeth in, in the, in the law. However, the State Department makes an evaluation once a year and they note noncompliance and, and noncompliance would be having a non authorized program in this facility." Her practical point, at 2:16:30: "If you, if the school district was looking for future funding, as we hope to, to renovate this building, they could use that against us for future funding. My point is, I think there are lots of other options available to the district besides this building." Both members thus report the same advice from the same state official, and both report it as "no teeth" — a characterisation this page has not been able to verify and does not adopt. |
MED |
| 2:17:32 |
"I have no mental picture of what this alternate ed program is" |
Hawkins: "the board did make a commitment at a retreat to support the tech center… And the continuation of the CTE programs. And if this alternate ed program, if this is a new program, would we be presented with that information onto what would be happening, what it looks like, who's involved? I have no mental picture of what this alternate ed program is, so I would like to have that information so that we as a board will know what we're talking about." Sprague: "some people seem to know about it, and…" Hawkins pressed the ask into a request: "that a presentation come before the board about the program?" |
MED |
| 2:18:29 |
The case for the programme: $3 million out of district, and the dropout rate |
Ben Nester: "at the at the state of the special ed presentation I gave, one of the slides I addressed was the need to create, in particular, middle and high school level programing for for two reasons. One, to reduce our almost $3 million out of district budget, which is unsustainable." And at 2:18:55: "secondly, to target our dropout rate, which still I believe it's, you know, perhaps the highest in the state." He accepted the process point without being pressed, at 2:20:14: "I apologize for not going through the visioning Committee first," and offered the history at 2:20:38: "there was one year on, there was 25% of the graduating seniors graduated from that that program and reduced the dropout rate significantly." What he had actually given the board, at 2:23:25: "a one page overall structure of the program that included staffing… it wasn't comprehensive or anything like that." |
MED |
| 2:19:31 |
"Do not have kids, an alternative program in a building with their peers" |
Sprague, from his own history: "as you know, I started an alternative program at Stevens. And one of the first things on the list is do not have kids, an alternative program in a building with their peers. That was, I think, number one on the list… we actually rented frontage downtown." And the design objection, at 2:25:41: "out of district and drop out are two very different breeds of cat… a dropout prevention program typically focuses around kids who who may be school phobic, who have, issues coming to school… These two groups are describing are mutually exclusive from each other." Nester agreed: "it's got to be the right profile… typically it's the students that are school phobic or, or sort of low level, low level disruption." |
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| 2:28:03 |
Eighty Stevens students on a charter school's list |
Sprague: "the new charter school in, in town that's down, I guess it's in the old flock building… they use two women that actually I hired to work in the alternative program that we had as consultants. So I have to assume that they are thinking about a from what I read about in their kids, these kids, that is the dropout prevention program." The number, at 2:29:40: "Their documents says that 80 students were identified by the guidance counselors at Stevens. That's what their documents says." Nester confirmed the mechanism — the interview and application process was running "this week" and "we provided them a list of students" — naming Heather Shepherd and Cathy Pellerin as the charter school's representatives. Hawkins: "So 80 students would be having the opportunity to go to the charter school." Sprague, on cost: "it would only cost us adequacy money for them to go there, right?" |
OBS |
| 2:22:50 |
A September start date, and a board with two weeks |
Hawkins: "This program is scheduled to begin in September." Nester: "We would like to see it begin in September. Absolutely. I mean, it's again, maybe I jump the gun a little bit here." The chair set out the choice at 2:25:22 — "We can have a special meeting if folks feel that it's warrants a special meeting… Or we could wait two weeks out for our standard meeting" — and named the constraint at 2:30:09: "we also have a huge, dense agenda in two weeks with a lot of budget and, and stuff and approval of and we're running at 9:00 right now." Her account of how the board got here, at 2:32:53: "We entrusted Ben to develop a program at a meeting after lengthy presentation… In that presentation Ben and I have talked about, this is truly the piece that was missing was the location I did not know about." |
MED |
| 2:34:54 |
A special meeting, set against the City Council, on one cable channel |
The board first opted for two weeks, then reversed to next week, then hunted for a night. Sprague: "Week from today is a city council meeting. I'm just saying." Hawkins could not do Monday; Tuesday was ruled out. Sprague at 2:35:42: "I would look at scheduled for Wednesday against city council and if it's." Miles raised the coverage problem at 2:35:52: "Can they do that with a CC TV? I mean they're going to be recording there and they're going to be recording here to the same night." The chair fixed it at 6:30 (2:36:13). Minutes: "The board decides to hold a meeting to further discuss Alternative Programming on Wednesday, August 9, 2023 at 6:30PM." No motion, no vote. Seven days' notice comfortably exceeds the statutory minimum of 24 hours. |
OBS |
| 2:36:31 |
The business administrator corrects her own slide, as the board is adjourning |
Mary Henry, unprompted: "Just for you. Adjourn. I want to correct one of my statements is 20% every other year." Miles: "I read it again and I did it wrong." Sprague, at 2:36:42: "Percent every year. It's 200%." Henry: "I know, I know… Sorry. My ear." The correction is right and the slide is wrong: the statute steps the hold-harmless grant down 20 percentage points every two fiscal years from FY2026 to zero in FY2034. Nothing about this exchange reaches the minutes, and Exhibit H as posted still says "20% per year for 10 years." |
MED |
| 2:36:57 |
A letter entered into the minutes |
"I just want to mention that we had a letter submitted to go into the minutes from time rock or two [Tom Rock, Ward 2]. I'm lining [outlining] support for the tech center and his desire to see things move forward. So those that letter will be entered into the minutes." It is — in full, at the end of the minutes document. Rock, chair of the Claremont Development Authority, asks "why the Claremont School system seems so reluctant to expand the offerings here at our own SRVRTC" and argues that "Claremont needs its own Career Specialist/Counselor for the SRVRTC here in Claremont." The board took it up in silence; it had spent the previous twenty minutes on whether a non-CTE programme should occupy the same building. |
POS |
| 2:37:21 |
The Stevens roof, done without a permit |
Crawford: "It came to my attention that the, the construction at the high school, was not there was not a, permit granted for that. And there's a second offense, $100 fine for being out of compliance with not having a a permit for the work being done at the high school." Sprague identified the work: "The roofing." The chair answered at 2:37:55 — "The $50, permit has been paid for" — and, pressed by Hawkins at 2:38:08 on whether the fine had been paid, Yes. Mary Henry could not date it: "I think couple of weeks ago, from what I understand, I'll have the date" (2:38:11). Then the chair's last word on it: "So it was paid, but not the, they did not have it at the city office, but we have record of it. Being granted." The minutes carry the contradiction unresolved: "There is a fine that needs to be paid. Heather Whitney speaks about the permit has been paid as well as the fine." |
OBS |
| 2:38:31 |
Adjournment, by consent, at no recorded time |
Gallagher gave the last subcommittee report — "we have yet to set a meeting. We're still working to get the judges locked down" — and apologised for the hour: "It's late and it's dense." Hawkins added the SAU 6 retreat to future dates at 2:39:02. The chair at 2:39:17: "Any other agenda items that we haven't spoken about that we want added the next meeting two weeks out? No. Seeing none. I'm going to say let's adjourn." Hawkins: Second. No vote is taken and the recording ends eleven seconds later. The minutes record no adjournment time — which was not a defect in 2023; the requirement to record start and end times was added to the Right-to-Know Law only in 2025. |
OBS |